Suzanne Lie, Ph.D., has been a seeker since she was a child where her active “imagination” took her deep into her inner life. She continues to regularly share her experiences and Arcturian teachings on her blog, Awakening with Suzanne Lie, and she wishes to help awakening ones come out of hiding and allow the glory of their highest expression of SELF into their everyday life.
I was out of town and lost track of this
wonderful discussion with Steve Beckow. I will release it bit by bit according
Flashpoint to Lightbody
Hour with an AngelDecember 7, 2015
Dr. Suzanne LieGuest
Channel for the Arcturians
Steve BeckowHost, In
We said toward the end of the last program that we wanted to continue the
discussion perhaps getting into this elusive concept of timelines. I don’t know
that anybody can explain to me very simply about timelines. So I’d be looking
to the Arcturians to perhaps explain that to us.
Earthlings, we are the Arcturians and we are happy to speak with you again,
Thank you for coming. I was hoping that you could make this whole topic of
timelines very simple and clear, because, people are writing in and asking me “What
timeline am I going on?” and, “What about my children, are they coming on my
timeline?” I don’t understand timelines at
all. So, could you help us please?
Yes. Let us begin by the fact that the main timeline is, of course, a
third-dimensional concept. Because as you move into the fifth dimension, there
is no time, there is only now. It’s a third, fourth dimensional concept. It is
activated now, because when you flow into the fifth dimension, it would be much
like diving into an ocean. And, once you dive into this ocean, all of your lives
are continually bound to each other via the waters through which they are
flowing. Now, of course, the thing is, when you are above the ocean, all lives
are tied to each other via the air that they are breathing.
in your third, fourth dimensional perceptions, you cannot perceive the
frequency of the air molecules that are binding you into oneness. Whereas, when
you are under the water, which has more density than the air or the sky, then
you can see that there is an element that is connecting every living being in
the oneness of the element of water.
the element of sky is connecting everyone outside of the water, but people
cannot perceive that concept as easily as they can when it is water.
Hah! Well, what is the impact of timeliness on all of us who are ascending? How
it will show up in our lives that we’ll see it?
Well, this is, of course, a very vast question. So, we will categorize it for
the sake of the third dimensional, fourth dimensional thinking. There are timelines
on the third dimension, which are different from the timelines on the fourth
dimension, which are different from the timelines – which would never be called
a timeline – on the fifth dimension. Do you understand what we are saying?
Yes, so far.
So, we will start with the third dimension. And, on the third dimension, as you
know, every reality is a living reality by the interconnection of the members
of that reality. So within Earth, there are many different realities. There is
the reality of the people who are awakened, and know that the world is multi dimensional
and know that there is a huge shift that is occurring; all the way down that
information scale to the people that are only knowing, “If I could just get
enough dinner my family won’t starve.”
out of those are different versions of reality, different frequencies of
reality. So, when you think of it in a third dimensional manner, these
frequencies are still realities, that appear to be separate, because third dimensional
perception separates things.
Now, let’s talk in terms of timeline on the third dimension, from the beginning
of Earth to when she has completed her journey through the third, fourth
dimensions and so on. There are many timelines. There is ancient Greece. There
is ancient Egypt. There is modern United States. All of these “timelines” are
usually – we say usually - not always identifiable by whatever civilization is peak
within that “now.”
Or it could be is in deep fog, such as the timeline of the Black Plague. That
timeline, if in the physical world, is held together by a common experience
that made people all stay within the same “time.” So therefore, it is called a
timeline. And, it’s called a timeline because something like Egypt was, what
you might say, a long timeline. On the other hand, if you were to look at the
United States official timeline, it’s still a very baby reality.
the reason why it’s called a timeline is that it has a beginning point and an
ending point, which makes it very third dimensional. Because it is in the third
dimension, in the reality in which people think in terms of beginnings and
endings. They have to have a separation. If it began, it would be like a birth.
And so, whatever made it begin is not part of that timeline, so to speak. And then
it ended. And what happened afterwards is not considered.
if you go into the fourth dimension, all that led up to it and then all that ended
after it, would be a component of that timeline, because the fourth dimension
is more ‘all encompassing.’ It is a higher brain wave. It is a higher frequency
of reality. And it is a reality in which most people visit via their dreams and
meditations when they are in a higher state of consciousness.
perception of the timeline is really the result of the state of consciousness
of the one who is perceiving it.
Okay. Many people, when they think about timelines, think, “I am about to go
off down this road and my spouse is about to go down that road, called
timeline.Mine is timeline A, his is
timeline B. Is he going to disappear? Because he’s on a different timeline,
will I stop seeing him in my reality?” Can you discuss that perception or
Well, again, it is about your state of consciousness. If your state of
consciousness is third dimensional, and a couple decides to go their different
ways, then they can perceive that as a separation. But, if you think of it as multi
dimensional: many of the beings on our starships, fifth dimension and beyond
that are not living under these constraints of time, they might go on separate
missions, where one would go take a body on the Earth and the other would stay on
the one who took the body on the Earth is bound by time, except because they
have such a high state of consciousness, they could be in continual
communication with their mate on the starship. And, so there isn’t a separation
between that timeline of staying on the ship and that timeline of entering the
body, because it moves out of time. As long as it stays in a world of time, it
is timeline. But once you enter the multi dimensional world, timeline has a
completely different meaning, because time is relative to your state of
I think the predominant concern is that “I will lose sight of my husband on a
lower timeline, a third dimensional timeline.” Now, of course, I know that as a
multi dimensional being, we don’t lose touch with our friends and family that
are on a lower dimension. We don’t lose touch. But, nevertheless, people
conceive of timeline as dividing, separating, and isolating them.
That is a very third dimensional way of looking at it. The same situation with
a husband and wife that should split, if there is a multi dimensional, higher
state of consciousness, they would still communicate because they are not just
the bodies that they are using to visit that “timeline.” They are pure essence.
They are consciousness.
their consciousness internally intermingles with the consciousness of their
completion of self, of their complement, and of the beings with whom they hold
love and admiration. Much as humans might think, “Wherever I am, I can still
connect with God.” Because, God is above that third-dimensional “timeline.”
I think that Salusa said, many years ago, there would be a time of separation,
and others more recently have said, “yes, we’re in it, or it’s coming soon.” We
are going to separate out at some point, are we not? The Cabal will, or the
recalcitrants - however you want to conceive of them - will either die off or
be taken to another more amenable setting. So there is actually a time of
separation. Can you discuss that?
The time of separation is that those that move into a state of what is called
“ascension” leave time.
Leave time. Okay.
And move into the frequency of the NOW, of the One.
Okay, so really you’re saying the separation will come with ascension.
The separation is from the ones who are on the Earth who still maintain a lower
state of consciousness. They will experience a separation. But the ones that
ascend will still be able to access that “frequency of reality” if they choose
to do so. That ability will not be lost.
Right. Speaking of it as a definite time of separation, as Salusa was doing…is that
something that adheres to ascension or is there going to be a time before
ascension when people will leave the planet? Will there be a formal time of
Now, again we understand that it is very difficult to think in terms in such a
multi dimensional fashion. So, really we will say what we have said before as a
third dimensional way of explaining this. Those who ascend will not have to
leave anything. They are expanding their essence.
will be able to be fully aware within their fifth dimensional self. And, if they
choose to also assist beings on the third dimension, they will do so. In fact,
there are many beings on the planet right now that are in that state…that are
fully connected to their higher dimensional self and are only wearing a body
for the sake of assisting the planet, or assisting people, or whatever it is
that they are assisting.
the reality in which everyone that has a body is amongst that group because
most of the people have forgotten. And so, therefore, their consciousness is
stuck in that lower third dimensional frequency and so is their thinking. So,
they can only think in terms of something ends, dies, and something new is
born. Because, they are not able to experience that birth and death are third
dimensional concepts, which are bound by time. The time that you are born and
the time that you die…within the One there isn’t birth and death.
the One, there is existence, there is life, and there is love. And, that
reality is now blending into, dipping into the third dimension. And so, instead
of there being a harsh cut-off date that, okay, that ended and that began,
there is a blending or a bleeding-into.
you could see the harsh boundaries that are around the physical planet and then
you perceive the fifth dimensional unconditional love, violet fire, divinity,
connection with all that is that is slowly drifting into and bleeding into the
third dimensional reality, those that wish to enter this new possible reality could
surrender into the higher frequency feeling and begin this process of
transmutation into their light body so that they are then able to move within
eventually there will be a time where there is a high enough frequency of Earth
that the beings of darkness will no longer be able to adhere their frequency of
that planet and they will instantly be pulled into the lower astral plane where
they will continue their darkness until they learn that energy out is energy
is about a graduation, in a manner, learning that Gaia is a planet of cause and
effect. To graduate from the third dimensional component of Gaia, one must
learn that energy out is energy back.
And those that still put out darkness, they will have to go to a frequency
where they get that darkness back right away until they learn to stop putting
out darkness. It is not about a punishment; it’s about a pass/fail.
then, there are those that will not be able to make that great a consciousness
shift. And, many of them will be relocated to another third-dimensional planet
so that they can continue with that experience. In this manner they can slowly
learn about the process of transmuting.
Now, that is what I would point to as being a time of separation. Right? What
you just described.
You could use that third-dimensional term.But it isn’t a “time,” because each person will experience it within his
or her own state of consciousness. It will not be a collective time.
It’s interesting because we get these notions originally from the Company of
Heaven. In this case, Salusa talked about the time of separation. It was he who
talked about divine deadlines. And, then when we go to apply these notions,
then we run into all these problems, about, “oh, that’s not a fifth dimensional
concept.” It’s a bit frustrating for us to have a concept given to us and then when
we try to understand it, the concept is gradually refined or taken away
Humanity likes to be able to look at a timeline and say, “If I can just hold in
the next 25 years, then I can ascend.” And that gives them a state of security.
And that’s good, because when they live in a state of security it allows them
to expand their consciousness.
when they expand their consciousness, they begin to expand their perception,
and they begin to perceive the world differently, interact with the world
differently, recognize the higher energy fields that are around them, and begin
the transmutation into their light body and into their ability to merge with a
higher frequency. So, there isn’t a separation between time and no time, except
for the people that are staunchly thinking in terms of time.